Okay I have to vent about the many many wives we read bout it

Okay I have to vent.

Guys, I love that the majority of you are not creeps (ie. beast, incest, creepy things) - most phase out thank goodness, hence why I love your open heartfelt posts.

Tell me from your hearts, as honest answers as possible, as best you can from your reasoning, perspective, thoughts, intuition, gut feeling, and even better straight from the horses mouths, why are your wives/women not providing you with enough quality sex or attempting to do so with you in whatever manner needed? What is going on? Is it an epidemic?

I hate seeing so many men in such bad sexual states who are in relationships/marriages. I want to reach out and smack some fellow ladies or at least tie them up, freak them out :yikes2: with wild sex acts to get them jump started back on track sexually.

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Originally Posted by wifekinky4husband

Okay I have to vent.

Guys, I love that the majority of you are not creeps (ie. beast, incest, creepy things) - most phase out thank goodness, hence why I love your open heartfelt posts.

Tell me from your hearts, as honest answers as possible, as best you can from your reasoning, perspective, thoughts, intuition, gut feeling, and even better straight from the horses mouths, why are your wives/women not providing you with enough quality sex or attempting to do so with you in whatever manner needed? What is going on? Is it an epidemic?

I hate seeing so many men in such bad sexual states who are in relationships/marriages. I want to reach out and smack some fellow ladies or at least tie them up, freak them out :yikes2: with wild sex acts to get them jump started back on track sexually.

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I'll bite... my wife and I got together when she was 48 and I was almost 55. I am now a few months off 70. At that point she was in the earlier stages of menopause where she'd stopped having periods, but hadn't hit the hot flashes much even. We had pretty intense sex - everywhere and often - apart from vaginal intercourse (her fave and she'd cum wildly and repeatedly in any position you'd care to try) there was oral (she greatly preferred receiving to giving, but...) and the odd shot at anal (which she also enjoyed). When we first met she still looked like she was in her early 30s, but as the hormones have dropped off she now (honestly) looks older than I do - most people still peg me at around 50.

Then around her 50th birthday vaginal sex started to become painful, then increasingly so. She'd still get so wet it was pouring out of her, but something was going on with the vaginal walls thinning (we think...). Medical science could only suggest hormonal treatment as an attempt and she was frightened of that. There was more talk of another specialist but it never really materialized. Sex became mostly me going down on her (after other foreplay) with my wife occasionally reciprocating... then not and just stroking me to completion. The lack of vaginal intercourse (what she really enjoyed) took away the joy in it for her and eventually she just stopped being interested or willing. She used to have a little vibrator "egg" she'd use once in a while when I was away and that disappeared into the garbage at some point. Now she has absolutely no libido of any sort and no will to hunt for one. She actively avoids contact with me that might get me turned on (even kissing beyond an affectionate peck isn't welcome) - ok, for the most part - once in a while she'll parade by naked and swing her boobs at me, but... last time we had sex of any sort was probably a half decade ago. I've occasionally encountered her lying on the bed naked drying after a shower and come over and kiss her chest, her breasts and work my way down her tummy, kissing... stroking.. get to the pussy and after a lick or two she pushes me away and says "don't be silly"... sigh... even though I feel her getting turned on...

My wife had a long bi history before she met me going back to high school. We both have a history of participating in orgies in earlier times. I suspect that if we'd met a decade earlier that is something we'd have explored together, but by the time I met her she seemed to have left that behind. I'm guessing that dropping libido might have been involved there as well.

My solution (such as it has been) was to play with my male friend once in a while. He's the better part of a decade older than I am and ED has really set in.I'm still ok with that - playing with a somewhat soft cock is still fun and giving each other pleasure is still good, but he has become increasingly frustrated and cranky about it and the last couple of meetings didn't go happily so we're kinda giving it a rest. In the earlier days we'd go multiple rounds, fuck each other silly sometimes. Getting older sucks. The other aspect is that for me without the female side of things on the go my inspiration is waning. Sex with a guy is something I find fun, but the basic urge comes from the opposite sex... make sense?

My wife and I have a really close friendship (apart from the lack of a physical side) and I don't want to screw that up. Life is in most ways really good. For some reason she seems to think that me being nearly 70 I should have lost interest in sex by now and that my continued libidinous ways are somehow a bit silly and "unseemly" (or something). I think a lot of women share her view that men over 60 who are still interested is sex fall into some "dirty old man" category. Who knows... I still DIY pretty much every day (sometimes more than once), but I sure would welcome a nice female hand helping... or mouth... or pussy (especially that!)... or... you get the drift. I desperately don't want to get involved in an affair as (to be quite honest) women tend to fall in love with me, quickly and easily. I've tried having a FWB situation a couple of times and it never ended at all well even when the parameters were laid out clearly in advance. I don't want another marriage, just a good physical side to the one I'm in. Not sure what the solution is or if there is one. An ideal solution might be to find a "mature" MF bi couple to play with, but even that might be dangerous in many ways.

So, lotsa words later...

For me, when I first started dating my now wife, we fucked like rabbits. Every day, multiple times. It was good for me, but even though she was willing and most often initiated (she knew I?d drop everything anytime) I noticed that even though she enjoyed it, it was hard for her to orgasm. And I knew it wasn?t me, as everyone I?ve been with, I?m proud to say I brought to orgasm multiple time. Oral or vaginal, I got it done lol. A few were oral cummers mainly, and I sooooo enjoyed going down and having their legs lock my around my head, hands pushing my face down in them and loving it. One loved oral so much and my god did she let loose! I never wanted to stop with her. She turned me on so much, after going down, I?d mount her and fuck the hell out of her, cum like crazy, then go back down on her. She freaking exploded!!! God I miss her. But my now wife never really seemed to have the hunger for sex I did. She later complained that sucking cock, swallowing cum didn?t taste good, and that I probably didn?t enjoy the taste of her. Are you kidding??? I lived for that! Haven?t met one I didn?t enjoy yet, and don?t think I ever will. So, over time she started shying away, and of course with lack of use, she started complaining of pain, being uncomfortable, etc. So, I began loosing interest in her. She doesn?t seem to mind or even care.

I love sex. I don?t care if it?s female or male. I label myself just plain sexual. I?ve sucked cock and love it, pussy will always be a must as well. Raw fucking, romantic, doesn?t matter. Our relationship has soured as well, and about over, so that said, I?m not apologizing for deciding to venture back out looking for willing sex partners. Before her I had fuck buddies and used to love it. I?m not wanting to waste anymore time.

From reading your posts, women like you are a godsend!

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Originally Posted by wifekinky4husband

Okay I have to vent.

Guys, I love that the majority of you are not creeps (ie. beast, incest, creepy things) - most phase out thank goodness, hence why I love your open heartfelt posts.

Tell me from your hearts, as honest answers as possible, as best you can from your reasoning, perspective, thoughts, intuition, gut feeling, and even better straight from the horses mouths, why are your wives/women not providing you with enough quality sex or attempting to do so with you in whatever manner needed? What is going on? Is it an epidemic?

I hate seeing so many men in such bad sexual states who are in relationships/marriages. I want to reach out and smack some fellow ladies or at least tie them up, freak them out :yikes2: with wild sex acts to get them jump started back on track sexually.

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I'm not in a sexless marriage. We actually have a great sex life. On average, we have sex 2 times a week. My only complaint is that she's not very good at oral and she doesn't swallow. I chalk that up to her not wanting to or enjoy giving head. I've been with a few women that loved sucking dick, and you could definitely tell.

I look to play with men for a few reasons:

1. It's still somewhat taboo in society, which makes it exciting.

2. It's something that I can't get from my wife. She doesn't have a dick for me to suck, a dick to fuck me with, or cum to shoot into my mouth, on my body, or into me.

3. Sneaking around to be with another guy is a whole different rush than sneaking around to be with another woman.

4. The rush I get from thinking about my wife while I'm sucking dick or getting my dick sucked is amazing.

5. I get extremely hard and excited watching my wife suck my dick while thinking to myself, "if you only knew that I suck dick too" or "I suck pick better than you"

There area few more, but these are my top ones for now.

Since menopause set in our sex life has dwindled to next to nothing. I love her but she can no longer satisfy my sexual needs.

My wife & previous girlfriends provided enough quality satisfying sex, BUT, man-2-man sex is simply different. Put simply a woman isn't equipped to satisfy that craving. Sure, they can strap on, but it just isn't the same as the real thing in my hands, my mouth or my ass. There's also an undeniably different energy with men-2-men sex. We are not soft to the touch & curved like women, the guys I like to play with are firm & much more angular in that typical male physique kinda way. With women I hold back, with guys I'm with an equal & can act accordingly.

Interesting and a welcome topic in my opinion! Thank you for bringing this up, it's nice to have a good discussion beyond "Here's the sexy stuff I like". NOT that I don't like those too.
Nice change of pace, is what I'm getting at.


When my ex-wife and I were dating, it was like any relationship, lots of crazy sex almost daily, after we moved in together, and got married, the day to day of life pretty much had things tapering off to about once, maybe twice a week. We did have a somewhat open relationship by then, she would meet up with her girlfriend about once a month, and I'd meet up with my boyfriend maybe twice a month? Sometimes more, working from home had it's advantages pre-pandemic. She ended up getting transferred for work over-seas, and our marriage just kind of fizzled out. We're still amazing friends, and both have re-married, her and her wife are happy, and I'm happy for them.


I met a gentleman in 2022, about 6 months after our divorce was finalized at a post pride party funny enough. When we first got together it was long weekends in bed, and quickies where ever we could knock one out. We married in October of 24, and our sex life is still pretty amazing, I've got no real complaints other than Daryl's new found love of brown liquor, and it's side effects from time to time. I am in more of the "wife" roll at this time in our marriage and it takes work to keep the glow alive, I've lived with him for almost two years now, and yes, we do have some spontaneous sex, but we make time for it too. Naked Saturdays are a planned event in our house, and have been. They take some planning some weekends, and if for whatever reason, it doesn't happen, then it will on Sunday! We usually, spend the day naked, in bed, watching movies, and fucking. There are times when I might not be in the mood, which is odd, I'm always horny and hungry for dick, but it does happen, and I'll give in, and almost always glad I did. I also like to surprise my husband when he comes home from work, or back from traveling for work, I look forward to those times the most, I'll wear something sexy, or nothing, cook him a nice meal to come home to, and a nice blowjob to relax to, or I'll ride his dick on the couch. We probably have sex just about everyday, and if we don't get around to full on sex, I'll usually suck him off just because, also, he's got a fabulously big cock, so how could I not. We do things to "keep it spicy" too, from some light spanking, bondage, to some group sex(he likes to watch me get dick) to some vacations focused on either being nude or having lots of sex. He knows how to fuck, I love to get fucked, and he loves fucking me, so it works out for this moment in time.
I am thankful, that we do not have any major health issues that have impeded our sex life, so I do know that I'm very lucky. I take to heart to hear the stories of folks still madly in love with their spouses, but aren't intimate physically anymore. My heart goes out to those people.

Is it an epidemic? Only if you consider life as being an epidemic. My first wife stopped having sex with me because she decided that she preferred women more and, at the very least, I could go down on her. Tack on having had a hysterectomy and it created a no-sex situation that as much as it bothered me that she didn't want sex with me, we had two poly wives who did want to have sex with me and I did have permission to literally have sex with anyone I could get in bed - including other guys. Things finally went south for us but not because of sexual issues.

My current wife and I started out having sex like it was illegal - but I know that a lot of relationships start out like this then, at some point, the sex goes away and this relationship wasn't any different. She was pre-menopausal when we met; tack on the fact that she was abused when she was younger and was in bad relationships with other men and that all added up to "making sense" to me when the sex went away - and with a lot of bitching and moaning and her telling me to stop acting like a victim when I asked her why we weren't having sex.

My experiences with a lot of women says that this is a life problem. It's not one that a lot of women have and, yeah, good luck finding a woman, say, in her 70s (in my situation) who still wants to have sex like she's a teenager again. My wife will, occasionally, want to be eaten and will give me a blowjob but that more of an obligation thing that a real desire to have sex. There are an untold number of men in situations like this and because their wife - and for whatever reason she cares to supply - just gives up on having sex while knowing that every night she goes to bed with a horny guy and wakes up to one in the morning. Do they feel any remorse?

And if hubby decides to go get sex elsewhere, would she understand or would she throw a major hissy fit because he cheated on her... and because she decided to make him celibate? This is one of the primary reasons why a lot of guys in this situation turn to other men for sex because I know I've never heard a guy say, "Not today, dude - I have a headache!" or ask "Is that all you think about?"

Never. I cannot say if this is an epidemic but it is a life - and maybe even social - issue that has no resolution that I'm aware of because there are a lot of "things" out there today to help such women get their sexual groove back but... you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink, can you?

I'd like to add a little addendum to my previous post. First is that the sources of a person's libido can be quite varied. Speaking of women - some seem to be mostly aroused emotionally or intellectually, others from a more sensual standpoint, still others largely hormonally motivated. Of course there is no one aspect that governs all... I think that unfortunately many of the women with powerful libidos earlier in life are under sway of their hormones and when they get into menopause it all goes away. Just a thought, perhaps an observation. I see my wife as falling into that latter category.

Another side to the whole bisexual side of the discussion - a rather high percentage of the women in my life over the past few decades have been bisexual to one degree/sense or the other. Of the five women who have been in my life over the past four decades only one hadn't had sex with another woman on more than one occasion and not just in the "drunken kiss at a bar" category. Yet none but my current wife would ever have viewed these activities as being of any real significance - they viewed themselves as "straight" women who just had sex with another woman now and then when the mood and opportunity struck. No big deal, bit of "fun". On the other hand, if you're a male having sex with another male you're classed as "secretly gay", like male bisexuality for can't really exist. From what I've read and heard from other men this frustrating "double standard" is a rather common one. Thoughts on that?

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Originally Posted by KDaddy23

Is it an epidemic? Only if you consider life as being an epidemic. My first wife stopped having sex with me because she decided that she preferred women more and, at the very least, I could go down on her. Tack on having had a hysterectomy and it created a no-sex situation that as much as it bothered me that she didn't want sex with me, we had two poly wives who did want to have sex with me and I did have permission to literally have sex with anyone I could get in bed - including other guys. Things finally went south for us but not because of sexual issues.

My current wife and I started out having sex like it was illegal - but I know that a lot of relationships start out like this then, at some point, the sex goes away and this relationship wasn't any different. She was pre-menopausal when we met; tack on the fact that she was abused when she was younger and was in bad relationships with other men and that all added up to "making sense" to me when the sex went away - and with a lot of bitching and moaning and her telling me to stop acting like a victim when I asked her why we weren't having sex.

My experiences with a lot of women says that this is a life problem. It's not one that a lot of women have and, yeah, good luck finding a woman, say, in her 70s (in my situation) who still wants to have sex like she's a teenager again. My wife will, occasionally, want to be eaten and will give me a blowjob but that more of an obligation thing that a real desire to have sex. There are an untold number of men in situations like this and because their wife - and for whatever reason she cares to supply - just gives up on having sex while knowing that every night she goes to bed with a horny guy and wakes up to one in the morning. Do they feel any remorse?

And if hubby decides to go get sex elsewhere, would she understand or would she throw a major hissy fit because he cheated on her... and because she decided to make him celibate? This is one of the primary reasons why a lot of guys in this situation turn to other men for sex because I know I've never heard a guy say, "Not today, dude - I have a headache!" or ask "Is that all you think about?"

Never. I cannot say if this is an epidemic but it is a life - and maybe even social - issue that has no resolution that I'm aware of because there are a lot of "things" out there today to help such women get their sexual groove back but... you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink, can you?

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The point regarding a spouse deciding that the other should be celibate (and often furthermore that it should be regarded as a natural state") really does bring the situation to a head (so to speak).

I’ve told my husband I had a headache, because I had a headache! ������

I absolutely love women. Born 1970 and found my Dads Playboy when I was 15ish. 1981-1983 love those years! I read playboy as I was in my 20’s. Sex was always have electric for me…heart racing etc. I love being naked, I remember looking at my cock at 17 thinking I would love to suck it and know what it feels like. Bi-curious is nothing new in this board. But looking back now that I’m married for 26 years, 3 sons, and marriage being sexless since I was 41. After a while I stopped complaining to her. I live by a very active ABS and that electric feeling came back sucking my first cock and seeing a nice ass bend under the booth (him wanting me to mount him).


My wife could care less about hugging me…going up to kiss me or anything. I have the rule of 6’s.
At 49 I had a 2.5 year affair with a 27 year old blonde co-worker and we would fuck like rabbits.
I broke it off. Privately went on a dating app Hinge and was getting hits all the time. Two more short high sex affairs and ended it. I did that to see if I was still wanted….by anyone. All the while going to that ABS and exploring and having great sex with men.
If I ever did get divorced I would date both sexes and see where things went. I have 3 incredibly successful sons…..more than I could ask for. (And someday I will ask God why he blessed me like he did)


IMHO. The #1 reason why marriages fail is the lack of sex. (You may think that is just a man view). Like it or not, sex is the glue to keep two people on a more intimate level. Otherwise you’re downgraded to roommates. That’s what I have now.
Sex will bring your man into your world. We are not that complicated.


I am in the medical profession and more and more studies are coming out that state women need testosterone. Even creatinine. And traditional hormone therapy wasn’t doing that. Or adding it. I’m past blaming my wife and I don’t hate her. She is an amazing person and mother. But I’m not in love with her.


Women make their lives more complicated than they need to be.


So now I’m a married bisexual in a sexless marriage that on paper is very successful.