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sammie19
May 29, 2011, 8:34 AM
I am not a Christian, but my partner is a member of the Church of Scotland and my mother is methodist. All of us found this development heartening in the face of so many of the Christian churches and their anti homosexual paranoia and schizophrenia.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/23/church-of-scotland-gay-lesbian-ministers

The Church of Scotland is the established church in Scotland and fills the same role in Scottish society that the Church of England does south of the border, but is presbyterian and not anglican. It is a traditionally conservative and normally very fuddy duddy institution not known for progressive movement when it comes to sexuality or sex issues.

The decision to ordain gay ministers whatever we think of christianity as a religion can only be a good thing and it is quite brave of the CofS to debate and pass the resolution and without opposition. It has also decided to seriously consider whether or not gay marriages (civil partnerships) should be solemnised and performed in their churches.

Both decisions are not without controversy, but in the face of a threat of a substantial minority of ministers and parishioners leaving the church and creating what they are calling a second schism, it becomes an even more courageous decision and hats off to the delegates to the General Assembly who voted to pass these motions.

I may not be religious but recognise the places that the established churches of Scotland and England have in both countries and see these moves as an invaluable step forward in the march to achieving equality for gay and bisexual people in both countries.

elian
May 29, 2011, 4:26 PM
Hi sammie, thanks for posting. I think the title of the article is funny because the truth is they probably already HAVE gay or lesbian ministers. I am glad that those ministers no longer have to feel fear and shame in denying a part of who they are. I'm sure that they will still have a lot of tough issues to deal with, such as if the partners of those ministers will actually be accepted but it is a great step in the right direction. There are a handful of denominations in the states that tolerate openly Lesbian and Gay folks.

As you may figure the institution still struggles because on the one hand they have a mandate by Jesus to "love all people" but they also have institutional culture, societal pressure and scripture that supposedly condemns homosexuality. Rather than being jealous or vindictive against our Christian neighbors I wish them patience, love and wisdom.

Hopefully one day they will come to understand that ALL people deserve God's love and it's NOT always a choice as some of them believe. Also, when most Christians think about "gays" they think about lustful sex, which of course is NOT what the fundamental issue of basic human rights is about.

It's very frustrating to hear someone who is homophobic talk about all that "disgusting sex", they don't seem to understand that the desire for who we LOVE is at a much more fundamental, innate level than who you lust after.

elian
May 29, 2011, 4:33 PM
Wise words from the immortal Freddie Mercury - he sang this song on the last album he recorded with QUEEN, while he was in the last stages of AIDS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P61pnsiZuvw

Pretty courageous for a man who struggled his whole professional career over the possibility of being outted in public..very cool of QUEEN to support him!

You can feel the pain of having to stay closeted in a few of his songs.